特斯拉(Tesla)CEO埃隆·馬斯克在與美國(guó)前總統(tǒng)唐納德·特朗普的訪談中,就氣候問(wèn)題發(fā)表了一番頗具爭(zhēng)議的言論,遭到億萬(wàn)富翁維諾德·科斯拉的抨擊。
太陽(yáng)計(jì)算機(jī)系統(tǒng)(Sun Microsystems)和科斯拉風(fēng)險(xiǎn)投資公司(Khosla Ventures)的聯(lián)合創(chuàng)始人科斯拉引用《衛(wèi)報(bào)》發(fā)表的一篇文章嘲諷馬斯克,稱(chēng)他與特朗普的氣候?qū)υ?huà)“愚蠢到不能用愚蠢來(lái)形容”。
馬斯克對(duì)科斯拉的帖子進(jìn)行了回?fù)?,他羞辱了《衛(wèi)報(bào)》,并質(zhì)問(wèn)科斯拉是否真正聽(tīng)了訪談內(nèi)容。
“史上最愚蠢的氣候?qū)υ?huà)”:專(zhuān)家評(píng)論馬斯克-特朗普訪談。愚蠢到不能用愚蠢來(lái)形容。https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
——維諾德·科斯拉(@vkhosla)2024年8月14日
科斯拉回應(yīng)稱(chēng),兩人的對(duì)話(huà)“是愚蠢的”,雖然他預(yù)料到特朗普對(duì)氣候科學(xué)知之甚少,但馬斯克在氣候變化問(wèn)題上的言論,卻回避了責(zé)任。
他寫(xiě)道:“我從未期待特朗普能夠理解不同二氧化碳PPM的細(xì)微區(qū)別及其后果,而且他向可以說(shuō)在氣候方面做出最多努力的人求助,這是非常明智的。但我認(rèn)為你一直在淡化現(xiàn)實(shí),你放棄了自己應(yīng)該承擔(dān)的責(zé)任?!?/p>
科斯拉提到的PPM是以百萬(wàn)分比測(cè)量的大氣二氧化碳濃度。他曾投資了DoorDash和Affirm等公司。大氣中二氧化碳這種溫室氣體的濃度,對(duì)于環(huán)境科學(xué)至關(guān)重要,而且會(huì)影響氣候??扑估_認(rèn),他確實(shí)聽(tīng)完了馬斯克在訪談中的發(fā)言。他寫(xiě)道:“我確實(shí)聽(tīng)完了氣候部分,而且我也確實(shí)認(rèn)為那一段很愚蠢?!?/p>
科斯拉是一位重要的清潔技術(shù)投資者,他的風(fēng)險(xiǎn)投資公司涉足交通、能源和制造等領(lǐng)域。
周一,在X上直播的兩個(gè)小時(shí)訪談中,電動(dòng)汽車(chē)公司特斯拉的CEO馬斯克淡化了氣候變化的影響。他表示,二氧化碳濃度升高最嚴(yán)重的后果,是讓人在某一時(shí)刻的呼吸變得更加困難。
馬斯克在訪談中說(shuō)道:“全球變暖確實(shí)存在一些風(fēng)險(xiǎn),但我認(rèn)為風(fēng)險(xiǎn)并不像許多人所說(shuō)的那么高,如果大氣中的二氧化碳濃度長(zhǎng)期升高,最終這可能讓人們出現(xiàn)呼吸不適。”
馬斯克稱(chēng),在大氣中的二氧化碳濃度達(dá)到1000 PPM后,即目前濃度的超過(guò)兩倍,人們會(huì)出現(xiàn)“頭痛和惡心”。雖然這種程度的大氣二氧化碳濃度可能產(chǎn)生其他影響,但氣候科學(xué)家和活動(dòng)家們一直警告,即使遠(yuǎn)低于這個(gè)水平的二氧化碳濃度,就可能對(duì)環(huán)境產(chǎn)生危害。美國(guó)國(guó)家海洋和大氣管理局(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)表示,地球上的大氣二氧化碳濃度已經(jīng)5,000萬(wàn)年沒(méi)有達(dá)到或超過(guò)800 PPM。大氣二氧化碳濃度超過(guò)1,000 PPM對(duì)環(huán)境的影響,可能導(dǎo)致極地冰蓋融化、洪水、海洋酸化和生物多樣性損失。
馬斯克還呼吁“隨著時(shí)間的推移”,美國(guó)經(jīng)濟(jì)停止使用石油和天然氣,并向可持續(xù)能源經(jīng)濟(jì)轉(zhuǎn)型,因?yàn)榛剂喜⒎菬o(wú)窮無(wú)盡的。
馬斯克對(duì)特朗普表示:“我認(rèn)為我們不應(yīng)該妖魔化石油和天然氣行業(yè)。如果我們馬上停止使用石油和天然氣,我們都會(huì)挨餓,經(jīng)濟(jì)將崩潰?!?/p>
馬斯克補(bǔ)充說(shuō),能源轉(zhuǎn)型勢(shì)在必行,但與氣候?qū)<业挠^點(diǎn)截然相反,他認(rèn)為我們距離迫在眉睫的氣候?yàn)?zāi)難還有充足的時(shí)間。
他說(shuō)道:“這并不像房子馬上要著火一樣十萬(wàn)火急,但我認(rèn)為我們需要逐步推進(jìn)這件事?!?/p>
今年4月,聯(lián)合國(guó)氣候變化總干事表示,各國(guó)政府和商界領(lǐng)袖有兩年時(shí)間采取行動(dòng),避免氣候變化最嚴(yán)重的影響。(財(cái)富中文網(wǎng))
譯者:劉進(jìn)龍
審校:汪皓
特斯拉(Tesla)CEO埃隆·馬斯克在與美國(guó)前總統(tǒng)唐納德·特朗普的訪談中,就氣候問(wèn)題發(fā)表了一番頗具爭(zhēng)議的言論,遭到億萬(wàn)富翁維諾德·科斯拉的抨擊。
太陽(yáng)計(jì)算機(jī)系統(tǒng)(Sun Microsystems)和科斯拉風(fēng)險(xiǎn)投資公司(Khosla Ventures)的聯(lián)合創(chuàng)始人科斯拉引用《衛(wèi)報(bào)》發(fā)表的一篇文章嘲諷馬斯克,稱(chēng)他與特朗普的氣候?qū)υ?huà)“愚蠢到不能用愚蠢來(lái)形容”。
馬斯克對(duì)科斯拉的帖子進(jìn)行了回?fù)?,他羞辱了《衛(wèi)報(bào)》,并質(zhì)問(wèn)科斯拉是否真正聽(tīng)了訪談內(nèi)容。
“史上最愚蠢的氣候?qū)υ?huà)”:專(zhuān)家評(píng)論馬斯克-特朗普訪談。愚蠢到不能用愚蠢來(lái)形容。https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
——維諾德·科斯拉(@vkhosla)2024年8月14日
科斯拉回應(yīng)稱(chēng),兩人的對(duì)話(huà)“是愚蠢的”,雖然他預(yù)料到特朗普對(duì)氣候科學(xué)知之甚少,但馬斯克在氣候變化問(wèn)題上的言論,卻回避了責(zé)任。
他寫(xiě)道:“我從未期待特朗普能夠理解不同二氧化碳PPM的細(xì)微區(qū)別及其后果,而且他向可以說(shuō)在氣候方面做出最多努力的人求助,這是非常明智的。但我認(rèn)為你一直在淡化現(xiàn)實(shí),你放棄了自己應(yīng)該承擔(dān)的責(zé)任?!?/p>
科斯拉提到的PPM是以百萬(wàn)分比測(cè)量的大氣二氧化碳濃度。他曾投資了DoorDash和Affirm等公司。大氣中二氧化碳這種溫室氣體的濃度,對(duì)于環(huán)境科學(xué)至關(guān)重要,而且會(huì)影響氣候??扑估_認(rèn),他確實(shí)聽(tīng)完了馬斯克在訪談中的發(fā)言。他寫(xiě)道:“我確實(shí)聽(tīng)完了氣候部分,而且我也確實(shí)認(rèn)為那一段很愚蠢?!?/p>
科斯拉是一位重要的清潔技術(shù)投資者,他的風(fēng)險(xiǎn)投資公司涉足交通、能源和制造等領(lǐng)域。
周一,在X上直播的兩個(gè)小時(shí)訪談中,電動(dòng)汽車(chē)公司特斯拉的CEO馬斯克淡化了氣候變化的影響。他表示,二氧化碳濃度升高最嚴(yán)重的后果,是讓人在某一時(shí)刻的呼吸變得更加困難。
馬斯克在訪談中說(shuō)道:“全球變暖確實(shí)存在一些風(fēng)險(xiǎn),但我認(rèn)為風(fēng)險(xiǎn)并不像許多人所說(shuō)的那么高,如果大氣中的二氧化碳濃度長(zhǎng)期升高,最終這可能讓人們出現(xiàn)呼吸不適?!?/p>
馬斯克稱(chēng),在大氣中的二氧化碳濃度達(dá)到1000 PPM后,即目前濃度的超過(guò)兩倍,人們會(huì)出現(xiàn)“頭痛和惡心”。雖然這種程度的大氣二氧化碳濃度可能產(chǎn)生其他影響,但氣候科學(xué)家和活動(dòng)家們一直警告,即使遠(yuǎn)低于這個(gè)水平的二氧化碳濃度,就可能對(duì)環(huán)境產(chǎn)生危害。美國(guó)國(guó)家海洋和大氣管理局(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)表示,地球上的大氣二氧化碳濃度已經(jīng)5,000萬(wàn)年沒(méi)有達(dá)到或超過(guò)800 PPM。大氣二氧化碳濃度超過(guò)1,000 PPM對(duì)環(huán)境的影響,可能導(dǎo)致極地冰蓋融化、洪水、海洋酸化和生物多樣性損失。
馬斯克還呼吁“隨著時(shí)間的推移”,美國(guó)經(jīng)濟(jì)停止使用石油和天然氣,并向可持續(xù)能源經(jīng)濟(jì)轉(zhuǎn)型,因?yàn)榛剂喜⒎菬o(wú)窮無(wú)盡的。
馬斯克對(duì)特朗普表示:“我認(rèn)為我們不應(yīng)該妖魔化石油和天然氣行業(yè)。如果我們馬上停止使用石油和天然氣,我們都會(huì)挨餓,經(jīng)濟(jì)將崩潰。”
馬斯克補(bǔ)充說(shuō),能源轉(zhuǎn)型勢(shì)在必行,但與氣候?qū)<业挠^點(diǎn)截然相反,他認(rèn)為我們距離迫在眉睫的氣候?yàn)?zāi)難還有充足的時(shí)間。
他說(shuō)道:“這并不像房子馬上要著火一樣十萬(wàn)火急,但我認(rèn)為我們需要逐步推進(jìn)這件事?!?/p>
今年4月,聯(lián)合國(guó)氣候變化總干事表示,各國(guó)政府和商界領(lǐng)袖有兩年時(shí)間采取行動(dòng),避免氣候變化最嚴(yán)重的影響。(財(cái)富中文網(wǎng))
譯者:劉進(jìn)龍
審校:汪皓
Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s controversial climate comments during his interview with former president Donald Trump prompted backlash on X from fellow billionaire Vinod Khosla.
Quoting an article from the Guardian, Khosla, the cofounder of Sun Microsystems and venture capital firm Khosla Ventures, ridiculed Musk, saying his climate conversation with Trump was “Infact soooo dumb, it should not be just called dumb.”
Musk shot back in a reply to Khosla’s post by insulting the Guardian and asking if Khosla had actually listened to the interview.
‘The dumbest climate conversation of all time’: experts on the Musk-Trump interview. Infact soooo dumb, it should not be just called dumb. https://t.co/YUn04KEyV6
— Vinod Khosla (@vkhosla) August 14, 2024
Khosla replied that the conversation was “dumb” and that while he expected Trump to not be as well versed on climate science, Musk skirted responsibility with his words on climate change.
“I don’t expect @realDonaldTrumpto know the nuances of various CO2 ppm levels and their consequences, and him reaching out to the person who has arguably done more for climate than anyone else is pretty sensible. You had a responsibility that I think you largely abdicated by downplaying the reality of things,” he wrote.
Khosla, who invested in DoorDash and Affirm, was referring to atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations, measured in parts per million. The atmospheric level of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide is crucial to environmental science and impacts the climate. Khosla confirmed that he, in fact, heard Musk’s comments in the interview. “I did listen to the climate part and yeah, I do think it was dumb,” he wrote.
For his part, Khosla is a major clean tech investor across transit, energy, and manufacturing through his venture capital firm.
During the two-hour live interview on X Monday, the electric vehicle CEO minimized the impact of climate change, saying that the worst elevated carbon dioxide levels can do is make it harder to breathe at a certain point.
“There is some risk, I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming, but I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe,” said Musk during the interview.
After the atmosphere surpasses 1,000 parts per million of carbon dioxide, more than double the concentration now, people can get “headaches and nausea,” Musk said. Although this level of atmospheric carbon dioxide could lead to those effects, climate scientists and activists have warned that a much lower concentration of co2 could wreak havoc on the environment. Atmospheric carbon dioxide 800 parts per million or more hasn’t been seen on Earth for 50 million years, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The environmental hit of surpassing 1,000 parts per million could lead to melting polar ice caps, flooding, ocean acidification, and potential biodiversity loss.
Musk also called for the U.S. economy to wean off oil and gas and transition to a sustainable energy economy “over time” because fossil fuels aren’t infinite.
“I don’t think we should vilify the oil and gas industry,” Musk told Trump. “If we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be starving and the economy would collapse.
Musk added that an energy transition needs to occur, but there’s still plenty of time before an imminent climate disaster, contrary to the opinion of climate experts.
“It’s not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards,” he said.
In April, the United Nations’ climate chief said government and business leaders have two years to take action and avoid the worst effects of climate change.